The internet is going mad today with searches for the expression "Kwop Kilawtley" which was something spoken by a character in the recent Twilight: New Moon movie.
Twilight New Moon Movie
It seems that the best answer is that is means “stay with me forever.” Jacob says this to Bella just before the almost-kiss, if I understand the scene. An incredibly romantic overture but if this is coming from a vampire this must be tantamount to saying “let me make you dead forever.” Young fans (mostly young women I should think) have been swooning over this movie. Myself, I am left to scratch my head and wonder what everyone is so fussed-up about. The main character is an undead. Someone that can change between human and wolf form, -is this correct? My opinion of Twilight: New Moon is basically a young woman’s indecision over the virtues between bestiality and necrophilia. It is a Harlequin Romance novel / vampire mashup. Nothing more.
Vampires have not been this cool since Wesley Snipe’s portrayal of ‘the daywalker’ in the “Blade” series of movies. That character was amazing! Wasn’t that just an incredible action-packed and original movie! He is a vampire with all their strengths and none of their weaknesses. In fact, he hates vampires and applies his superior inhuman strengths and rapier arsenal of Gothic vampire-killing weapons to the elimination of all vampires without regard. He blames them (all of them) for the death of his then-pregnant mother whom was attacked but not killed. She died giving birth to him which left him in essence still human but with the awesome strengths of the vampire. A ‘day-walker.’ His other strengths include that he does not feed upon blood and sunlight does not kill him. I love that scene where he yells at other vampires trying to seige him with “You do not know who you are messing with!” Forget Buffy, HE made vampire-slaying cool!
I really don’t understand this current rise in romantic infatuation with vampires. This movie in particular has me perplexed. It has it own particular fan-base of course, -a fan base whose ranks fail to include me. I have not been a fan of most movies in recent years however. Too many remakes and regurgitations and yet they seem to earn big box office sales. I just don’t get it. I must have outgrown the mainstream cinema demographic. It seems that even what I’d determine to be bad movies do exceedingly well these days.
While I’m on the subject, I was never a fan of he whole J.R.R. Tolkien “Lord of the Rings” trilogy either. The books I was forced to read back in High School bored me nearly to tears. I did sort of enjoy that Rankin-Bass cartoon “The Hobbit.” That was pretty good. I can say however that the live-action movies of LoTR did The Trilogy books justice and that was enjoyable just because movies never tend to be better than the book. Often, they are worse.
I am not a fan of many recent big-name movies of the current decade including the entire Harry Potter series. Sorry, -just not a fan. I watched a few of these when they were on prime-time television and well honestly I was not impressed. I was not offended or anything. I just was not interested. The movies just do not do anything me. I know that I will stand singularly alone with that opinion.
In my own defense and of the talented authoress J.K. Rowling I will say that I do applaud her success with the Harry Potter novels and franchise. She has worked very hard on these for many years before they became popular and I acknowledge that. Anyone that can bring millions of children and young adults to the love of reading a book for the pleasure of it deserves accolades irregardless of whatever genre they write. Twilight maybe deserves the same acknowledgement. In that regard I wish similar success was mine.
“New Moon” appeals to a certain specific audience. There are notable things inserted into the movie that are cute and thoughtful that can appeal to many more casual fans. In one scene, Edward, Alice and Bella enter an elevator and the music playing is Johann Strauss‘ “Die Fiedermaus” (The Bat.) I like it when directors purposefully insert little things like this into movies, raising the intellectual bar a little bit. I actually find myself looking and listening for things like this.
It is interesting when one finds these little ‘Easter Eggs’ on their own, or learn of them through fannish sources. Sometimes, bloopers emerge as well. One I remember was from the television series M.A.S.H. (series aired 1972–77.)
The scene was that Hawkeye entered a nurse’s tent and the nurse was reading a book. The book she was holding was the Peter Bradford Benchley novel “JAWS,” which was published in 1974 (and became the successful Spielberg movie of the same name) and would have had no purpose being used in a series set in a U.S. Army medical camp in 1950s Korea. The scene called for the nurse to be reading a book, and a book was what was used. It wasn’t intended that the book’s cover be purposefully shown, let alone be recognized. Yet some sharp-eyed fans did notice, and of course now we all learned of it. But it would have been difficult first off, to have NOT found a copy of the popular book JAWS laying around during the mid-70s. Everyone was reading it. And the distinctive cover photo is such a recognizable image.
At any rate, the mystery of what does “Kwop Kilawtley” mean seems to have been found. I’m sure this won’t be the last that we hear of it however.
December 20th, 2009 at 6:00 am
Great post! very interesting article. well done my friend! cheers
December 20th, 2009 at 6:03 am
Anyone who writes a book has my admiration, it is not easy I know as I am finishing one now.
I didn’t think I would enjoy the Twilight movie but I did, because as you quite rightly say, little things gave it its moments.
Interesting article. Kwop Kilawtley…lovely words
December 22nd, 2009 at 9:42 am
amazing post! i like it.
December 28th, 2009 at 1:34 am
Interesting discussion!
January 28th, 2010 at 11:05 am
My brow is furrowed while I read your post. You obviously have NO IDEA what any of the books of Stephanie Meyer\\\’s Twilight Saga is about. There is nothing remotely necrophiliac about it, nor is there even a hint towards bestiality. In fact, much of the first three books is largely a metaphor for deep, chaste, romantic love. No WONDER guys don\\\’t get it. It\\\’s a shame really, because if the male gender could understand why females, teen to grandmother, connect with the series, it would solve the age old question of \\\”What do women want?\\\”. There have been many men who have attempted to understand women (Freud comes to mind especially) and ALL have failed.
So give up, but don\\\’t smear people who do get it just because you don\\\’t. Carl Jung would have explained that the reason these books (many of the ones you dissed above) speak to the human archetypes… and play the role of modern mythology.
Example: One phenomena about the Twilight books is that readers frequently have dreams (thus, the subconscious mind at work) about the characters in the book. Meyer, herself, first dreamt about Bella and Edward and wrote down her dream of the meadow scene. This was the birth of Twilight, her first ever novel. Other composers, such as Mozart, or Paul McCartney (“Yesterday”) are the stuff from which dreams were made of.
Just to underline HOW clueless you were when you began writing your little commentary here, you seem to be under the impression that \\\”Que Quowle\\\” (k-we k-WOW-le) is said by a vampire or to a vampire, in the film “New Moon”. Check your references! In that scene, there is no vampire at all.
You write, “The main character is an undead. Someone that can change between human and wolf form, -is this correct?” No. WRONG. Entirely wrong.
There is a love triangle by the end of the second book, which is a human girl (Bella Swan, the main character), a vampire (Edward Cullen) and a the same girl (Bella) with a Quileute boy (Jacob Black)., who has inherited the gene to turn into a wolf, like his spirit-warrior ancestors.
The book New Moon, basically centers on the story of Bella’s developing relationship with Jacob, after Edward decides, despite is undying love for her, to leave her so that she can have a safe and normal life. Of course, that hardly works out, when in Edward’s absence, her best friend and only possible romantic prospect turns out to be the Native American equivalent of a werewolf.
I would NEVER describe the Twilight Saga has a Harlequin/Vampire Mash-up. Surely, it is a romance, but as I said before, it embodies archetypes that speak to the human spirit, albeit the feminine component therein.
It is a shame that this cannot bring some enlightenment to men of the world. Instead, they tend to feel threatened by it and criticize, sadly because they cannot comprehend. In that sense, this love story becomes a bit of a tragedy. Note also (check the web!), how many women and girls have tried to share a bit of the story with their mates… We are trying to TELL you what we want. Yet, mostly our attempts fall on deaf and/or critical ears. It maybe is just not in your nature to understand what we are telling you.
For women, however, and certainly, for Stephanie Meyer , her fans, and the makers of the film series, The Twilight Saga has been a remarkable success. Finally, someone has found a link that connects to the journey every young woman makes. Compare how many male-focused coming of age stories there have been!
And Meyer thinks to cover the masculine side as well, as at certain sections of the books, the main narrator, switches from Bella Swan to Jacob Black, allowing Jacob to tell his own trials of growing up and falling in love.
Honestly, these books have everything I need to feel complete, and as such I would be happy reading only these over and over and over again. They certainly are what I would take to my desert island (and, for insiders, I would name it “Isle Esme” ).
And I KNOW I am not alone there. The books have been published in nearly 50 countries and well over 85 million copies have been sold. They have topped the bestseller lists for months at a time. If you consider that you are mainly talking about female persons buying the books, thus take the usual buying public and divide by about half… the numbers are incredibly impressive. You yourself, were gobsmacked by the sheer number of web searches for a phrase that was three seconds on screen.
You have my sympathy. I am sorry you cannot “get” it; you are really missing so much. I would wish the joy that accompanies the Twilight experience to everyone, but alas, not all are fit to find it.
January 28th, 2010 at 11:07 am
My brow is furrowed while I read your post. You obviously have NO IDEA what any of the books of Stephanie Meyer’s Twilight Saga is about. There is nothing remotely necrophiliac about it, nor is there even a hint towards bestiality. In fact, much of the first three books is largely a metaphor for deep, chaste, romantic love. No WONDER guys don’t get it. It’s a shame really, because if the male gender could understand why females, teen to grandmother, connect with the series, it would solve the age old question of “What do women want?”. There have been many men who have attempted to understand women (Freud comes to mind especially) and ALL have failed.
So give up, but don’t smear people who do get it just because you don’t. Carl Jung would have explained that the reason these books (many of the ones you dissed above) speak to the human archetypes… and play the role of modern mythology.
Example: One phenomena about the Twilight books is that readers frequently have dreams (thus, the subconscious mind at work) about the characters in the book. Meyer, herself, first dreamt about Bella and Edward and wrote down her dream of the meadow scene. This was the birth of Twilight, her first ever novel. Other composers, such as Mozart, or Paul McCartney (“Yesterday”) are the stuff from which dreams were made of.
Just to underline HOW clueless you were when you began writing your little commentary here, you seem to be under the impression that “Que Quowle” (k-we k-WOW-le) is said by a vampire or to a vampire, in the film “New Moon”. Check your references! In that scene, there is no vampire at all.
You write, “The main character is an undead. Someone that can change between human and wolf form, -is this correct?” No. WRONG. Entirely wrong.
There is a love triangle by the end of the second book, which is a human girl (Bella Swan, the main character), a vampire (Edward Cullen) and a the same girl (Bella) with a Quileute boy (Jacob Black)., who has inherited the gene to turn into a wolf, like his spirit-warrior ancestors.
The book New Moon, basically centers on the story of Bella’s developing relationship with Jacob, after Edward decides, despite is undying love for her, to leave her so that she can have a safe and normal life. Of course, that hardly works out, when in Edward’s absence, her best friend and only possible romantic prospect turns out to be the Native American equivalent of a werewolf.
I would NEVER describe the Twilight Saga has a Harlequin/Vampire Mash-up. Surely, it is a romance, but as I said before, it embodies archetypes that speak to the human spirit, albeit the feminine component therein.
It is a shame that this cannot bring some enlightenment to men of the world. Instead, they tend to feel threatened by it and criticize, sadly because they cannot comprehend. In that sense, this love story becomes a bit of a tragedy. Note also (check the web!), how many women and girls have tried to share a bit of the story with their mates… We are trying to TELL you what we want. Yet, mostly our attempts fall on deaf and/or critical ears. It maybe is just not in your nature to understand what we are telling you.
For women, however, and certainly, for Stephanie Meyer , her fans, and the makers of the film series, The Twilight Saga has been a remarkable success. Finally, someone has found a link that connects to the journey every young woman makes. Compare how many male-focused coming of age stories there have been!
And Meyer thinks to cover the masculine side as well, as at certain sections of the books, the main narrator, switches from Bella Swan to Jacob Black, allowing Jacob to tell his own trials of growing up and falling in love.
Honestly, these books have everything I need to feel complete, and as such I would be happy reading only these over and over and over again. They certainly are what I would take to my desert island (and, for insiders, I would name it “Isle Esme”).
And I KNOW I am not alone there. The books have been published in nearly 50 countries and well over 85 million copies have been sold. They have topped the bestseller lists for months at a time. If you consider that you are mainly talking about female persons buying the books, thus take the usual buying public and divide by about half… the numbers are incredibly impressive. You yourself, were gobsmacked by the sheer number of web searches for a phrase that was three seconds on screen.
You have my sympathy. I am sorry you cannot “get” it; you are really missing so much. I would wish the joy that accompanies the Twilight experience to everyone, but alas, not all are fit to find it.
January 28th, 2010 at 11:07 am
My brow is furrowed while I read your post. You obviously have NO IDEA what any of the books of Stephanie Meyer\’s Twilight Saga is about. There is nothing remotely necrophiliac about it, nor is there even a hint towards bestiality. In fact, much of the first three books is largely a metaphor for deep, chaste, romantic love. No WONDER guys don\’t get it. It\’s a shame really, because if the male gender could understand why females, teen to grandmother, connect with the series, it would solve the age old question of “What do women want?”. There have been many men who have attempted to understand women (Freud comes to mind especially) and ALL have failed.
So give up, but don\’t smear people who do get it just because you don\’t. Carl Jung would have explained that the reason these books (many of the ones you dissed above) speak to the human archetypes… and play the role of modern mythology.
Example: One phenomena about the Twilight books is that readers frequently have dreams (thus, the subconscious mind at work) about the characters in the book. Meyer, herself, first dreamt about Bella and Edward and wrote down her dream of the meadow scene. This was the birth of Twilight, her first ever novel. Other composers, such as Mozart, or Paul McCartney (“Yesterday”) are the stuff from which dreams were made of.
Just to underline HOW clueless you were when you began writing your little commentary here, you seem to be under the impression that \”Que Quowle\” (k-we k-WOW-le) is said by a vampire or to a vampire, in the film “New Moon”. Check your references! In that scene, there is no vampire at all.
You write, “The main character is an undead. Someone that can change between human and wolf form, -is this correct?” No. WRONG. Entirely wrong.
There is a love triangle by the end of the second book, which is a human girl (Bella Swan, the main character), a vampire (Edward Cullen) and a the same girl (Bella) with a Quileute boy (Jacob Black)., who has inherited the gene to turn into a wolf, like his spirit-warrior ancestors.
The book New Moon, basically centers on the story of Bella’s developing relationship with Jacob, after Edward decides, despite is undying love for her, to leave her so that she can have a safe and normal life. Of course, that hardly works out, when in Edward’s absence, her best friend and only possible romantic prospect turns out to be the Native American equivalent of a werewolf.
I would NEVER describe the Twilight Saga has a Harlequin/Vampire Mash-up. Surely, it is a romance, but as I said before, it embodies archetypes that speak to the human spirit, albeit the feminine component therein.
It is a shame that this cannot bring some enlightenment to men of the world. Instead, they tend to feel threatened by it and criticize, sadly because they cannot comprehend. In that sense, this love story becomes a bit of a tragedy. Note also (check the web!), how many women and girls have tried to share a bit of the story with their mates… We are trying to TELL you what we want. Yet, mostly our attempts fall on deaf and/or critical ears. It maybe is just not in your nature to understand what we are telling you.
For women, however, and certainly, for Stephanie Meyer , her fans, and the makers of the film series, The Twilight Saga has been a remarkable success. Finally, someone has found a link that connects to the journey every young woman makes. Compare how many male-focused coming of age stories there have been!
And Meyer thinks to cover the masculine side as well, as at certain sections of the books, the main narrator, switches from Bella Swan to Jacob Black, allowing Jacob to tell his own trials of growing up and falling in love.
Honestly, these books have everything I need to feel complete, and as such I would be happy reading only these over and over and over again. They certainly are what I would take to my desert island (and, for insiders, I would name it “Isle Esme”).
And I KNOW I am not alone there. The books have been published in nearly 50 countries and well over 85 million copies have been sold. They have topped the bestseller lists for months at a time. If you consider that you are mainly talking about female persons buying the books, thus take the usual buying public and divide by about half… the numbers are incredibly impressive. You yourself, were gobsmacked by the sheer number of web searches for a phrase that was three seconds on screen.
You have my sympathy. I am sorry you cannot “get” it; you are really missing so much. I would wish the joy that accompanies the Twilight experience to everyone, but alas, not all are fit to find it.
January 28th, 2010 at 11:09 am
My brow is furrowed while I read your post. You obviously have NO IDEA what any of the books of Stephanie Meyer’s Twilight Saga is about. There is nothing remotely necrophiliac about it, nor is there even a hint towards bestiality. In fact, much of the first three books is largely a metaphor for deep, chaste, romantic love. No WONDER guys don’t get it. Its a shame really, because if the male gender could understand why females, teen to grandmother, connect with the series, it would solve the age old question of “What do women want?”. There have been many men who have attempted to understand women (Freud comes to mind especially) and ALL have failed.
So give up, but don’t smear people who do get it just because you don’t. Carl Jung would have explained that the reason these books (many of the ones you dissed above) speak to the human archetypes… and play the role of modern mythology.
Example: One phenomena about the Twilight books is that readers frequently have dreams (thus, the subconscious mind at work) about the characters in the book. Meyer, herself, first dreamt about Bella and Edward and wrote down her dream of the meadow scene. This was the birth of Twilight, her first ever novel. Other composers, such as Mozart, or Paul McCartney (”Yesterday) are the stuff from which dreams were made of.
Just to underline HOW clueless you were when you began writing your little commentary here, you seem to be under the impression that “Que Quowle”(k-we k-WOW-le) is said by a vampire or to a vampire, in the film “New Moon”. Check your references! In that scene, there is no vampire at all.
You write: “The main character is an undead. Someone that can change between human and wolf form, -is this correct?”No. WRONG. Entirely wrong.
There is a love triangle by the end of the second book, which is a human girl (Bella Swan, the main character), a vampire (Edward Cullen) and a the same girl (Bella) with a Quileute boy (Jacob Black)., who has inherited the gene to turn into a wolf, like his spirit-warrior ancestors.
The book New Moon, basically centers on the story of Bella’s developing relationship with Jacob, after Edward decides, despite is undying love for her, to leave her so that she can have a safe and normal life. Of course, that hardly works out, when in Edward’s absence, her best friend and only possible romantic prospect turns out to be the Native American equivalent of a werewolf.
I would NEVER describe the Twilight Saga has a Harlequin/Vampire Mash-up. Surely, it is a romance, but as I said before, it embodies archetypes that speak to the human spirit, albeit the feminine component therein.
It is a shame that this cannot bring some enlightenment to men of the world. Instead, they tend to feel threatened by it and criticize, sadly because they cannot comprehend. In that sense, this love story becomes a bit of a tragedy. Note also (check the web!), how many women and girls have tried to share a bit of the story with their mates… We are trying to TELL you what we want. Yet, mostly our attempts fall on deaf and/or critical ears. It maybe is just not in your nature to understand what we are telling you.
For women, however, and certainly, for Stephanie Meyer , her fans, and the makers of the film series, The Twilight Saga has been a remarkable success. Finally, someone has found a link that connects to the journey every young woman makes. Compare how many male-focused coming of age stories there have been!
And Meyer thinks to cover the masculine side as well, as at certain sections of the books, the main narrator, switches from Bella Swan to Jacob Black, allowing Jacob to tell his own trials of growing up and falling in love.
Honestly, these books have everything I need to feel complete, and as such I would be happy reading only these over and over and over again. They certainly are what I would take to my desert island (and, for insiders, I would name it “Isle Esme”).
And I KNOW I am not alone there. The books have been published in nearly 50 countries and well over 85 million copies have been sold. They have topped the bestseller lists for months at a time. If you consider that you are mainly talking about female persons buying the books, thus take the usual buying public and divide by about half… the numbers are incredibly impressive. You yourself, were gobsmacked by the sheer number of web searches for a phrase that was three seconds on screen.
You have my sympathy. I am sorry you cannot “get” it; you are really missing so much. I would wish the joy that accompanies the Twilight experience to everyone, but alas, not all are fit to find it.
January 28th, 2010 at 11:10 am
My brow is furrowed while I read your post. You obviously have NO IDEA what any of the books of Stephanie Meyer’s Twilight Saga is about. There is nothing remotely necrophiliac about it, nor is there even a hint towards bestiality. In fact, much of the first three books is largely a metaphor for deep, chaste, romantic love. No WONDER guys don’t get it. Its a shame really, because if the male gender could understand why females, teen to grandmother, connect with the series, it would solve the age old question of “What do women want?”. There have been many men who have attempted to understand women (Freud comes to mind especially) and ALL have failed.
So give up, but don’t smear people who do get it just because you don’t. Carl Jung would have explained that the reason these books (many of the ones you dissed above) speak to the human archetypes… and play the role of modern mythology.
Example: One phenomena about the Twilight books is that readers frequently have dreams (thus, the subconscious mind at work) about the characters in the book. Meyer, herself, first dreamt about Bella and Edward and wrote down her dream of the meadow scene. This was the birth of Twilight, her first ever novel. Other composers, such as Mozart, or Paul McCartney (”Yesterday) are the stuff from which dreams were made of.
Just to underline HOW clueless you were when you began writing your little commentary here, you seem to be under the impression that “Que Quowle”(k-we k-WOW-le) is said by a vampire or to a vampire, in the film “New Moon”. Check your references! In that scene, there is no vampire at all.
You write: “The main character is an undead. Someone that can change between human and wolf form, -is this correct?”No. WRONG. Entirely wrong. There is a love triangle by the end of the second book, which is a human girl (Bella Swan, the main character), a vampire (Edward Cullen) and a the same girl (Bella) with a Quileute boy (Jacob Black)., who has inherited the gene to turn into a wolf, like his spirit-warrior ancestors. The book New Moon, basically centers on the story of Bella’s developing relationship with Jacob, after Edward decides, despite is undying love for her, to leave her so that she can have a safe and normal life. Of course, that hardly works out, when in Edward’s absence, her best friend and only possible romantic prospect turns out to be the Native American equivalent of a werewolf. I would NEVER describe the Twilight Saga has a Harlequin/Vampire Mash-up. Surely, it is a romance, but as I said before, it embodies archetypes that speak to the human spirit, albeit the feminine component therein. It is a shame that this cannot bring some enlightenment to men of the world. Instead, they tend to feel threatened by it and criticize, sadly because they cannot comprehend. In that sense, this love story becomes a bit of a tragedy. Note also (check the web!), how many women and girls have tried to share a bit of the story with their mates… We are trying to TELL you what we want. Yet, mostly our attempts fall on deaf and/or critical ears. It maybe is just not in your nature to understand what we are telling you. For women, however, and certainly, for Stephanie Meyer , her fans, and the makers of the film series, The Twilight Saga has been a remarkable success. Finally, someone has found a link that connects to the journey every young woman makes. Compare how many male-focused coming of age stories there have been! And Meyer thinks to cover the masculine side as well, as at certain sections of the books, the main narrator, switches from Bella Swan to Jacob Black, allowing Jacob to tell his own trials of growing up and falling in love. Honestly, these books have everything I need to feel complete, and as such I would be happy reading only these over and over and over again. They certainly are what I would take to my desert island (and, for insiders, I would name it “Isle Esme”). And I KNOW I am not alone there. The books have been published in nearly 50 countries and well over 85 million copies have been sold. They have topped the bestseller lists for months at a time. If you consider that you are mainly talking about female persons buying the books, thus take the usual buying public and divide by about half… the numbers are incredibly impressive. You yourself, were gobsmacked by the sheer number of web searches for a phrase that was three seconds on screen.
You have my sympathy. I am sorry you cannot “get” it; you are really missing so much. I would wish the joy that accompanies the Twilight experience to everyone, but alas, not all are fit to find it.
January 28th, 2010 at 11:11 am
My brow is furrowed while I read your post. You obviously have NO IDEA what any of the books of Stephanie Meyer\’s Twilight Saga is about. There is nothing remotely necrophiliac about it, nor is there even a hint towards bestiality. In fact, much of the first three books is largely a metaphor for deep, chaste, romantic love. No WONDER guys don\’t get it. Its a shame really, because if the male gender could understand why females, teen to grandmother, connect with the series, it would solve the age old question of \”What do women want?\”. There have been many men who have attempted to understand women (Freud comes to mind especially) and ALL have failed.
So give up, but don\’t smear people who do get it just because you don\’t. Carl Jung would have explained that the reason these books (many of the ones you dissed above) speak to the human archetypes… and play the role of modern mythology.
Example: One phenomena about the Twilight books is that readers frequently have dreams (thus, the subconscious mind at work) about the characters in the book. Meyer, herself, first dreamt about Bella and Edward and wrote down her dream of the meadow scene. This was the birth of Twilight, her first ever novel. Other composers, such as Mozart, or Paul McCartney (\”Yesterday) are the stuff from which dreams were made of.
Just to underline HOW clueless you were when you began writing your little commentary here, you seem to be under the impression that \”Que Quowle\”(k-we k-WOW-le) is said by a vampire or to a vampire, in the film \”New Moon\”. Check your references! In that scene, there is no vampire at all.
You write: \”The main character is an undead. Someone that can change between human and wolf form, -is this correct?\”No. WRONG. Entirely wrong. There is a love triangle by the end of the second book, which is a human girl (Bella Swan, the main character), a vampire (Edward Cullen) and a the same girl (Bella) with a Quileute boy (Jacob Black)., who has inherited the gene to turn into a wolf, like his spirit-warrior ancestors. The book New Moon, basically centers on the story of Bella’s developing relationship with Jacob, after Edward decides, despite is undying love for her, to leave her so that she can have a safe and normal life. Of course, that hardly works out, when in Edward’s absence, her best friend and only possible romantic prospect turns out to be the Native American equivalent of a werewolf. I would NEVER describe the Twilight Saga has a Harlequin/Vampire Mash-up. Surely, it is a romance, but as I said before, it embodies archetypes that speak to the human spirit, albeit the feminine component therein. It is a shame that this cannot bring some enlightenment to men of the world. Instead, they tend to feel threatened by it and criticize, sadly because they cannot comprehend. In that sense, this love story becomes a bit of a tragedy. Note also (check the web!), how many women and girls have tried to share a bit of the story with their mates… We are trying to TELL you what we want. Yet, mostly our attempts fall on deaf and/or critical ears. It maybe is just not in your nature to understand what we are telling you. For women, however, and certainly, for Stephanie Meyer , her fans, and the makers of the film series, The Twilight Saga has been a remarkable success. Finally, someone has found a link that connects to the journey every young woman makes. Compare how many male-focused coming of age stories there have been! And Meyer thinks to cover the masculine side as well, as at certain sections of the books, the main narrator, switches from Bella Swan to Jacob Black, allowing Jacob to tell his own trials of growing up and falling in love. Honestly, these books have everything I need to feel complete, and as such I would be happy reading only these over and over and over again. They certainly are what I would take to my desert island (and, for insiders, I would name it \”Isle Esme\”). And I KNOW I am not alone there. The books have been published in nearly 50 countries and well over 85 million copies have been sold. They have topped the bestseller lists for months at a time. If you consider that you are mainly talking about female persons buying the books, thus take the usual buying public and divide by about half… the numbers are incredibly impressive. You yourself, were gobsmacked by the sheer number of web searches for a phrase that was three seconds on screen.
You have my sympathy. I am sorry you cannot \”get\” it; you are really missing so much. I would wish the joy that accompanies the Twilight experience to everyone, but alas, not all are fit to find it.
January 28th, 2010 at 11:12 am
My brow is furrowed while I read your post. You obviously have NO IDEA what any of the books of Stephanie Meyer’s Twilight Saga is about. There is nothing remotely necrophiliac about it, nor is there even a hint towards bestiality. In fact, much of the first three books is largely a metaphor for deep, chaste, romantic love. No WONDER guys don’t get it. Its a shame really, because if the male gender could understand why females, teen to grandmother, connect with the series, it would solve the age old question of “What do women want?”. There have been many men who have attempted to understand women (Freud comes to mind especially) and ALL have failed.
So give up, but don’t smear people who do get it just because you don’t. Carl Jung would have explained that the reason these books (many of the ones you dissed above) speak to the human archetypes… and play the role of modern mythology.
Example: One phenomena about the Twilight books is that readers frequently have dreams (thus, the subconscious mind at work) about the characters in the book. Meyer, herself, first dreamt about Bella and Edward and wrote down her dream of the meadow scene. This was the birth of Twilight, her first ever novel. Other composers, such as Mozart, or Paul McCartney (”Yesterday) are the stuff from which dreams were made of.
January 28th, 2010 at 11:14 am
Apologies, for the duplication. The page claimed to have an error, then took all submissions after all!
January 28th, 2010 at 11:16 am
I didn’t know about this new phenomenon before, thanks for the info.
And Lol@ Zalasin, that’s the most annoying spamming ever. Your comment almost beat the length of this article.
January 28th, 2010 at 1:24 pm
Yeah, truly sorry about the neverending comments. I wrote to webmasters and asked them to remove the duplicates.
In fairness to men (as I am great sympathizer to the gender), women are always saying they want men to open up and tell them what’s on their mind. If some brave soul (or fool) actually does, the women usually are either a) appalled or b) so shocked in disbelief, they go into denial or c) make up their own -more acceptable- interpretation.
i.e., When someone tries to give them an honest answer, they really often don’t want (or can’t) hear it.
I suppose with Twilight. You may find a girl trying desperately to make you understand the themes, so you can understand HER… and the guy (most often a boyfriend) is like, “Can’t you just get to the point?”
Men like easy answers. Women go for passion and drama and lots and lots of words.
{I, obviously, am female -lol}
January 28th, 2010 at 5:13 pm
I am truly enjoying your comments! Really!
February 21st, 2010 at 9:29 am
“Authoress”? Has anybody EVER used that word before in referring to a female writer? Jane Austen was an author. So was Dame Agatha Christie. LIkewise, Dame J.K. Rowlings is also an author.
Otherwise, good post. Not everybody has to like the “Twilight” books.
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:09 am
“authoress” is actually a 15th century benign term for a female writer, although possibly viewed as mildly offensive now in this 21rst century. It was used here to delineate the fact that the author was in fact, female, in case the reader didn’t already know because of her use of initials instead of her full name.
It followed the cadence of readability better than “the female author” which is truly ‘derogatory’ is its implied specificity. It’s like saying “the male President” which again, violates the spoken/read cadence and suggests an agenda based upon gender.
As for the duplicated comments, I the author have the ability to remove these posts. I think I’ll leave them as they are however. -It shows the postee’s commitment to getting her point across (a good thing) despite the host server’s reluctance to accept the post.
Cheers!
-thestickman
April 23rd, 2010 at 12:39 am
I’d like to give kudos to both the author of this article and the wonderfully verbose respondent. Both of you have stuck to your guns on why you think/believe such things. That’s awesome to see!
I’d also like to add something from my own perspective. I had a friend express something along the lines of shock that I enjoy the +*twilight*+ books, since I am an author myself (albeit an unpublished one). He explained to me that Bella seems extremely vapid and almost comes across as a canvas on which every girl reading could paint herself. It seemed to be a negative thing for him. I, on the other hand, believe it was in good taste for Ms. Meyer to do this. (Her name is spelled Stephenie with an E, by the way. She was named after her father Stephen, if that helps you remember.) All who read novels are looking to “become” the character. This is part of the excitement, and much of our interest level is based on how “into” the characters we can get. So, kudos to Stephenie, too!
I really believe the +*twilight*+ (yes, I MUST type it this way- don’t ask, just accept) books are not actually about vampires. How’s that for contradiction? The entire story is about overcoming insurmountable obstacles in order to discover who you really are and what you’re really meant to do. It’s about fighting for what you believe. It’s about believing what you believe. Yes, there are moments of blood and gore, but overall, they only add to the (albeit fictional) reality of the story. All who exist fight for survival, but even more than that, they fight for a reason to not only survive, but thrive and flourish.
I also am female and overly verbose. Being way past midnight doesn’t hurt much, either.
April 23rd, 2010 at 12:41 am
Oh, and I loved Blade, as well!! Along with Underworld, which is hands down my favorite vampire/werewolf movie. Ever.
June 8th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
Oh my, you’ve got to do a little more research on the series. You’ve got it all wrong. Jacob is not undead, he is not a vampire, so when he says “kwop kilawtley” to Bella, the forever part would involve humanity and eventually death. And actually, Edward (a vampire) does not even approve of turning Bella into an immortal.
I can summarize a bit of the series for you (that means SPOILERS):
Twilight- Human Bella moves to Forks, WA from arizona to live with her father. Bella runs into human Jacob, an old family friend. She meets vampire Edward at school. They fall deeply in love. Bella and Edward and his family come across some bad vampires. One of the bad vampires, James wants to kill Bella and almost does but Edward and his family save her by killing James. Bella gets bitten but Edward sucks the venom out which is extremely difficult for him bc Bella’s blood is uh… “overwhelmingly desirable to him.” Victoria, James partner is enraged and throughout much of the series, tries to get revenge.
New Moon- After a terrible birthday accident at Edwards house, he decides to break up with Bella because her being tied into the vampire world just isn’t safe. This all but KILLS Bella. She becomes a hollow shell of a human being, shutting everyone out… except Jacob, who she refers to as her personal sun. Jacob keeps Bella going in Edward’s absence. During this time Jacob discovers that he and a few other members of his tribe are shapeshifters (only shift into massive wolves) and live to protect humans from vampires and Bella finds out too. After believing Bella has died (skipping the details abt why he thinks this) Edward wants to die so he goes to Italy to ask the “vampire royalty” to kill him. It is not easy for these vampires to die, the sun does not harm them and a stake could never pierce their granite-like skin. Bella saves Edward just in time and takes him back as her boyfriend. Jacob is heartbroken. Bella has not realized at this point, how much she loves Jacob but she does love Edward more.
I’ll stop there but you really ought to make sure that the things you present in your article are factual. Your judgements cannot be taken into serious thought if your readers know that you have no real basis on which to pass these judgements. Just try a quick wikipedia search. That’d be better than questioning it in your actual article but proceeding to judge before you know it you’ve got it right or wrong.